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: that is the suspicion that's shared by a lot of republicans taking it, steve, as almost an article of faith of three weeks, a month, that the president actually wants to go over the cliff and i'm not sure if that's true. i have no way of knowing if that's true. i kind of doubt it. if you look at it, the republicans lose a lot of leverage. they have painted themselves in to this corner. there's no denying that fact. john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh my god. i don't want to get started on that. but anyway, you know, there's a lot at stake here. and, you know, it is late for this kind of thing to go on. and really, steve, i know you have been on board for this last several day
. with me today, ben stein. steve cornaki is joining us, as well. president obama returned to washington moments ago, cutting short his christmas vacation. the president has now spoken with all four congressional leaders, according to the white house communications director he. the house remains on vacation, but there are a few signs of life in the capital. gop leaders have released a new statement with an old message to the senate. the ball is in your court. the statement says the house will take action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate first must act. well, this morning, senate majority leader reid slammed the house republicans not not even showing up. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we are headed, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 48 hours inside. i can't imagine their conscious. >> well, senator reid is expected to hold a news conference about the talks this afternoon. so here is where we stand. reid wants to ge
agrees that that action is necessary. gregg: steve hayes, is the senior writer for "the weekly standard" and a fox news contributor. steve, great to see you. the deal being bandied about right now to raise taxes on higher earners actually doesn't appear to do anything to fix the problem, that is, all the new revenue from higher taxes would be used for more spending. as we understand about 850 billion in new revenue would be spent on eliminating the fiscal cliff automatic spending cuts and extending unemployment checks. is it true not a dial would go to cutting the real problem, the debt and deficit? >> yeah. in one scenario that is absolutely the case. we shouldn't actually be surprised. it has been clear at least for a short amount of time that this hasn't been the goal of these discussions. i mean for all the talk about deficit reduction and despite the fact that this began as an effort to rein in spending after the 2010 elections, it is clear democrats in the house and senate, i would argue the president, haven't been serious about long-term spending cuts. gregg: maybe they're not se
schwarzkopf and what the world did not know about him. and "on the road" with steve hartman as a man tries to save his wife of 56 years. an unusual request that gets a surprising response. >> got two of them and i only need one. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> glor: good evening, scott is off tonight. i'm jeff glor. it is the end of a holiday week, but it would appear congress is just getting started. tonight, the president said he is mottestly optimistic about a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which would mean avoiding automatic tax increases and spending cuts come, you know, 1. the president spoke to the nation this evening after an hour-long meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. democrat and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. they appear to remain deadlocked on who exactly will pay those higher taxs. we have two reports tonight, beginning with major garrett at the white house. major, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, jeff. two things are clear tonight that were not cle
's baby and the fiscal cliff countdown thing, it's about to get serious. >>> i'm steve kornacki. fiscal cliff tops the list of banished words. sloped does not agree on the list. i fully agree. >> >>> i'm crystal ball. never again after today. who am i kidding? cliff, cliff, cliff! i can't stop myself. >>> the latest on kim kardashian, kanye and the baby ahead but the other story in the headlines today. america staring down the fiscal cliff. t-minus nine hours and counting and washington is wasting no time. senate minority leader mcconnell saying both sides are close to a deal. it's about time. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain. whatever you want to call it. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. with this congress, that was obviously a little bit too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart but negotiations are continuing as i speak. but we really are running out of time
obama met with the four congressional leaders this afternoon just a few minutes away. steve handlesman has more. >> after the meeting, he called the president was optimistic and insistent, optimistic there can be a deal that will keep most americans' taxes from going up. here's the president gist now in the white house briefing room. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house with start and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up-or-down vote. one that protects the middle class from an income class hike. one that extends it to 2 million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more economic growth and debt reduction. >> that leads to the insistent park, asking reith who control the se
, reaction from one of the more outspoken members of congress, steve israel of new york. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. >> we are running out of time. americans are still threatened with a tax hike in just a few hours. i hope we can keep in mind, and i know we will, our single most important goal is to protect middle class families. >> by all means let's complete a deal today so we can go home. let's raise taxes. let's stick it to those rich people-let's not touch spending. >> two people are gathered in a private room trying to negotiate something that has enormous consequences for this country and for our economy. we are where we are because this process was greasily mismanaged up until this point. [ male announcer ] what are happy kids made of? bikes and balloons, wholesome noodles on spoons. a kite, a breeze, a dunk of grilled cheese. catches and throws, and spaghettio's. that's what happy kids are made of. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upp
is an update from an old friend and pair of ours, author of "beyond outrage" and steve moore, i guess robert reich attacks things, but why is it your democratic friends never want to cut spending and never want to shrink the government? why is that? >> i think a lot of documents are willing to cut spending that maybe you would agree with, larry. the problem with this bill, the biggest problem is it doesn't deal with the debt ceiling. we are going to have trench warfare and this is not going to end. >> the debt ceiling which is a scary thing. the republican's last shot at leverage, but markets get real nervous as i do when you start messing around with the us credit worthy news. and during the negotiations the democrats had no interesting spending. let me say one thing about this deal. if you look at the specifics of the deal, you know, it is not such a terrible thing, it is probably the best that republicans could get. but i want to make this point loud and clear. this is raising taxes on investment and businesses. i don't see anything good about it for the markets. we finally have resolutio
from congressman steve israel, democrat from new york. stick around for that. >>> the other big developing story we're following, secretary of state hillary clinton in a new york city hospital this morning being treated for a blood clot. her spokesperson says the clot was discovered during a routine followup exam yesterday in the wake of the concussion she suffered several weeks ago following a fall. now, nbc news chief science and health correspondent robert bazell is live from new york there in front of the presbyterian hospital. bob, what do we know about secretary clinton's condition and how she is being treated right now? >> richard, we know precious little. we had the one statement yesterday evening from secretary clinton's staff that said she suffered a concussion that was related -- excuse me -- suffered a blood clot related to this concussion. usually when somebody has a blood clot related to a concussion it is in the brain and would not be treated with anticlotting drugs. she is being treated with anticlotting drugs. so maybe she has a blood clot someplace else. we don
to get back to my christmas list here. let's see. casey dolan gets a girls' scholarship. steve lewis, steve got desks last two >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drumbeat against the nra. >>> six days until the price of milk shoots up to $8 a
minority leader mitch mcconnell. harry reid and nancy pelosi were there. steve chenevey live on capitol hill right now. >> that meeting at the white house lasted just a little more than an hour. they started at 3:10 and were done by 4:15. no major decisions were made. president, reportedly telling congressional leadership, if you do not have a better plan than i do by now, we need to get to voting on my plan. the clock is still ticking in advance of monday night's deadline. frustration being felt not just inside the capitol, but i constituents outside as well. >> i am a little worried about the future as well, for my kids mostly. >> it is a popular thought outside the capital. >> there is an understandable frustration. >> chris van hull and is hopeful a deal can be reached by tuesday, although it will likely be a smaller deal that addresses only the major parts of the fiscal cliff from taking effect. >> we have got to get on a larger agreement, to make sure we sustained a very fragile economy, tried to get it to move faster, and deal with the long- term deficit. >> those decisions may n
clinton's glad clot. medical experts say the severe a steve the problem depends on the location of the clot. most risky are the rain. she is being treated by anti-could he ago ooh atlantas and will remain at new york's presbyterian hospital until tuesday to monitor her medication. this is not the first time that mrs. clinton had been treated for a blood clot she had one in the back of her right leg in 1988, she described it as the most serious medical condition she ever experienced. after a stomach virus she fainted and hit her head. it is possible the newly discovered clot had form before she was diagnosed with a discussion. it also could have resulted from bed rest. >> the blood clot i'm assuming is similar to the one she had in 1988 which was in the back of her leg. she did have a concussion recently, which probably made her a little immobile at home, which is a bit of a risk factor for developing clots in veins in legs, especially in people who are at risk for them h-frpblgts since suffering the concussion secretary clinton has not made any public appearance and canceled ove
iron oar a lot. >> let's get more insight from steve from web bush securities. how much of a nail biter is this for you in terms of fiscal cliff and the markets? >> i think pretty clear at this point that if there's a deal coming, it's gonna be coming very, very soon. i think the markets discounted the fact we are going to get some sort of deal t has held up fairly well here and i think if we don't get a deal, we will see a selloff. i don't know how considerable, but certainly see the 2, 3% decline in the market. >> does it amaze you, steve, that the markets, in your view, still consider a given that we are going to reach a deal? here we are thursday, december 27th. they still haven't issued a 48-hur notice for congress to return to capitol hill and yet you're saying the markets have baked in some sort of deal? >> yeah, i think so. i don't in he isly think the deal happened december 31st. if we pass waite without a deal earthquake the market will think something is going to happen in early january this is the way washington works, they walk right up to the edge of the deal, maybe even p
republicans may believe, as steve said that raising taxes on people over 250 is a mistake, president obama ran very clearly on doing exactly that, won 51% of the vote, 332 electoral college votes, we are probably going to get there the question how much crockery do we break along the way? >> ron that's fine. let's be fair here. we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put anything serious on the table still on spending cuts, ron. i think that's, you're right urkts bo, both sides have to give a little bit here, i haven't seen much give on the democrats' side of the aisle here. >> the inability to comp prom my keith stone to democrat circumstance todd, why don't you weigh in on this. what is your feelings with what has to be dealt with by not just this congress but 1913th congress, numerology could worry you a little bit. >> stephen hit the nail on the head, talk about the spending cuts, that actually is not even in existence right now you right now you the top line issue has been about tax re
how you doing? my name is steve. my family's lived in this neighborhood for years. recently, things got so tight we had to go to our local food bank for help. i lost a lot of sleep worrying about what the neighbors might think. that is, until i saw them there, too. how'd i do, steve? a little stiff. you could have done a little better. what? come on. you know, i have an academy award. yeah, but not for playing me. announcer: play a role in ending hunger. visit feedingamerica.org/hunger and find your local food bank. adam: i'm adam shapiro in for melissa francis. here's what's "money" tonight. president obama and congressional leaders try to pull off a fiscal cliff hail mary. their last-ditch meeting at the white house desperately tries to land a deal but the report he hadly not putting any new offer on the table. we have the very latest for you. >>> not even the fiscal cliff can slow down the u.s. oil boom the production surge sets up huge windfalls for businesses outside the oil industry in 2013. who stand to reap the biggest gains? we'll drill down details so you can get in on thi
representative congressman steve latourette. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> washington finally seems ready to ring in the new year with a deal that averts the fiscal cliff. it only has taken 517 days to reach this point. what a waste of time. from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi. this is your money. with only hours to go, president obama says a deal between democrats and republicans is, quote, within reach as america ticks closer to the fiscal cliff at midnight. >> they are close, but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> duown to the wire. if you thought the fiscal cliff snuck up on congress, the
again at least. steve has the latest from capitol hill. >> sources are capitol hill say president obama in today's talks feels he has the advantage back and that he will press on his original demand that income taxes rise on earnings over $250,000. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid november the four congressional leaders at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker john boehner is a key figure. >> the fact that he has come back to me says that they cannot come up with some kind of agreement. -- that they can come up with an agreement. >> both sides want to avoid middle-class tax cuts. the hang up is the tax hikes on the rich. those making over $250,000 in the obama reposal or $400,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements by tuesday. >> if we do something right now to have long-lasting, adverse effects on economic growth, th
. that is the word from his vice president. steve, how bad is the president's condition? >>reporter: it looks like the condition is very serious. this was the fourth operation for a pelvic-area cancer for chavez, an undisclosed fact of the type of cancer. he has not been seen or heard from publicly in the past three weeks. all this is happening in cuba, and now the vice president has gone from venezuela to cuba marking how serious the condition is. requests have been made to the people of venezuela to pray for chavez and new year's celebration are canceled. >>trace: if president chavez dies who replaces him? >>guest: that is tricky. we are right in between an election back in october and a potential ininauguration on january 10. he has said he wants his vice president, a one-time bus driver, to replace him. it is not clear that would happen if he died now they have to hold an election in 30 days but it is more complicated than that. if chavez dies before the john 10 inauguration, that election is run by the head of the parliament. but if he dies after january 10, it is run by the vice president so
margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what steve la tourette had to say today being interviewed on cnn. >> this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government not willing to make the deal they know they have to make. everybody wants to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is going to matter to somebody, which side is it really going to matter to? ivities the blame is on both sides. what's driven this whole process is republicans are very opposed to -- just the republicans who will vote for any tax increase. we learned last week from the plan b vote. once we go over the cliff, republicans are ready for a tax cut, not an increase. right now that's what the big challenge is. >> chip, is that the biggest strategy here, get to the third and pass the third, the new congress comes in, boehner danger doesn't exist anymore, his speakership stays in place and grover norquist gives a thumbs up to up? >> i don't think tha
of stock. it's really the volume of the insider buy that declares its sincere steve. we're focusing on buying at the top. nothing more arrogant than when an insider backs up a truck for his own stock, sitting at a 52-week high. they are saying we know we rock, and we're so confident it will keep going higher, we'll buy stock hand over fist, not waiting for a pullback. buying what looks like to be the high. arrogant, sure, but bankable uverse, and there are notable exceptions occupying the wall of shame. let's assume they know what they are doing. not everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt in this business, and after the financial crisis at the end of 2008, i know a lot of people think ceo execs are fraud, crooks, liars, especially those of you who got burned on lehmann brothers. that's the wrong lesson to draw from the crash. healthy skepticism is one thing. a total unwillingness to believe anything positive is something entirely different. if you are going to own stocks, you need to be willing to extend some measure of trust to those who run the companies. getting their stock t
. congressman steny hoyer, tom cole, steve israel all next. first a look at some people behind the scenes at msnbc. i hope you all have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown!" >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> happy new year from "andrea mitchell reports." >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas from "the cycle!" >> happy holidays from the "alex witt" team. >> happy holidays from "up with chris hayes." >> happy holidays! >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from msnbc. >> happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from the p.a.s. >> from all of us at msnbc, merry christmas and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays, everybody. >> hello, team. what a wonderful 2012. i'm looking forward to a fantastic 2013. happy new year. >>> happy new year. the question today. are you ready to go cliff diving? breaking news tops our agenda this hour. can congress avoid turning into a pumpkin at midnight? we're watching capitol hi
sustain the one-two punch is anybody's question. patti ann: joining us now is steve moore from the "wall street journal." hopefully he can give us some answers. good morning, steve. what is the most immediate impact in we go over the cliff? >> we are talking about january 2nd taxing rising on over a hundred million americans. this is a big sock to the wallet of americans of every income group. let's just talk about the middle class for a minute. for those earning about 45 to 75,000 a year they are looking at paying somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,500 a year more in taxes. it's not just the warn buffets and bill gates that will be hit by tax increases. the other part of the cliff that we don't talk that much about is the automatic spending cuts would take effect starting on january 2nd, an 8% reduction in major spending categories, national defense, many of what we call the domestic discretionary programs would also be hit. this is a big fiscal wallop to the economy and a lot of economists believe it could cause a double-dip recession. patti ann: on the other hand we are hearing from
congress steve la turret of ohio, a member of the appropriations committee. thanks for coming "outfront." with this plan that the president's put forward, the scaled-down plan which would keep taxes low for 98% of americans, raising them for folks over 250, extending unemployment benefits. would you vote for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell whi
as consumers realize there are no more magic products coming from apple after the death of steve jobs. >> chris: and kirsten? >> the economy is going to continue to turn around. not going to be a boon but it will continue to grow some what slowly in the first half of the year and start to pick up and housing a key part of that. >> chris: do you think congress and the continued perils of falling cliffs is that going to hurt the economy? >> it would be much more helpful if there was more certainty and the stock market wasn't constantly fluctuating over wondering what our congress going to do. >> chris: finally and this is an area a where we all have strong opinions if not not much that could be said about the first three categories. sports. bill? i know what you will say. you you could still revise this. >> looking forward to the redskins cowboys game tonight. are you going? >> chris: yes. >> you are bigger redskins fan than i am. i love rg 3 but being kind of the pessimist i am i expect them to dash my hopes and lose cowboys tonight and after the fantastic run the redskins will fall short of the
the process for everybody. >> steve -- >> so he is in a powerful position because it's better for him and everyone if the senate has a unanimous consent as to what should happen. kick it over to the house. >> reed and mcconnell was interviewed side-by-side, it was a rare interview last month. i want to play you about what he said in that interview. and we will get your reaction on the other side. take a listen. >> what was the feeling in that room for you? >> it was very chilly, they did not look at each other once during the course of the interview. >> i thought it would be interesting to see if there was any common ground and we found none. >> we with found none. that doesn't sound like the two men get along very well. >> i don't know that mitch mcconnell has a lot of democratic friend that's pals around with, to be honest with you. so that is not terribly surprising to me. he is is not known as being that type of member of congress. but there are views on levels like harry and mcconnell has been able to come together before. it's not a mcconnell, reed, it's about the house republic
, steve. i would like to thank the secretary for his kind comments and i think it's important to note in addition to our united states senators, we are joined by the entire colorado delegation. our members of congress, diana degette, jared polis, cory gardner and congressman perlmutter. i had the great privilege to be with our former senator in the shadow of the rocky mountains where this tree once stood and we now have the high privilege of standing in the shadow of the capitol of the united states of america to be able to celebrate this season. when we went to carve that tree, we were joined there by members of the ute tribes. they are inherent to our area. the people of the ute tribes, they have a word that things are good -- to make sure that all is good. native american culture, it's about wind, about the sky, the land, and water. and from that, growth and life comes. this tree, which will represent the spirit of the state of colorado and indeed our nation speaks also to the importance as the secretary noted of forest health. in the state of colorado, we have many challenges this
when he got successful he moves all his company over to china, giving chinese people jobs. if steve jobs was born in china he wouldn't even have a garage therefore he wouldn't be able to create the apple computer. so i just think we just don't do enough for the people of this country. and the people who are in position to create jobs and do this do not reinvest in the country. therefore i don't think they should get tax breaks. if you want to give these corporate giants tax breaks then give it to those who want to invest in the country, who want to create jobs here, not overcease, and they think try to think of ways to get their money over there into here lower than say the american businessman paying 35%. guest: i mean, i understand your frustration. i think part of it is that the corporate tax code is a mess. we clearly need to fix it in a way that a lot of the politicians talk about fixing it in a revenue neutral way which doesn't add anything to the deficit discussion. it doesn't help make lowering future deficits any easier. so there are some things we need to change about the
believe it is a lot higher. the whole thing was steve jobs. he treated the apple computer in his garage. when he got successful theme of his company over to china giving chinese people jobs. if steve jobs was born in china he would not even be able to create the apple computer. we just do not do enough for the people of this country. the people who are position to create jobs do not reinvest in the country. i do not think they should get tax breaks. if you want to give these corporate giant tax breaks given to those who want to invest in the country and create jobs. for a lower than the american businessmen. guest: i understand your frustration. part of it is the corporate tax .ode clearly needs to fix it a lot talk about fixing a and a revenue neutral way. it does not help lowering future deficits any easier. there are some things need to change. in general we need to realize that if we set our country on the bike path making the right investments in -- the right path making investments in education and making sure we do not have the necessary programs that can help us do that growth,
morning, america and steve. this is a great time to be an american. i think we are all looking forward to the new year. i am a loyal but nervous. -- i am a little bit nervous. mitch mcconnell is the key. he can take the president over into the presidency and a came a great man. we need to make sure we let mr. mcconnell know that history is there. i know he has a lot of issues. everyone bacchant e-mail, text -- everyone can e-mail and text and let mr. mcconnell n know. the tea party is off the rail. this will make this country take off. i hope mr. mcconnell sees this. everyone out there, the game has been played. host: thank you for the call. harry is joining us from pittsburgh. caller: this whole thing is ridiculous. i started paying social security and 14. i have quite a bit of money in there. i have made my own way. record, the past money they are asking for, that is mostly white people making that money. they should call it what it is. that is still whitey's money. i wish i was as smart as it then people. a lot of people have called then and have not worked hard. everybody wants the
is on the independent line from colorado. caller: good morning, steve. i listened to it the myopic dogma in this segment over and over. the only people i can blame on this are the american people. the people who sit here and listen to these guys that are extremists and and they vote him into office -- them into office. i hear people say let's get rid of epa. if you look at how much epa takes out of our budget, that's like worrying about nothing gary people need to turn off the tv and start studying more. crack some books. look at economic spirit trickle- down economics does not work. name a country where it has worked? maybe estonia. but it's not working incr greece. i heard a great saying that says when time gets tough, everyone is a keynesian. turn off the tv. not c-span of course. but turn off the news channels that are just cramming this stuff, and get involved in this before you formulate an opinion. i think we would be voted into office smarter, better people that are not tea party extremists. how about if on the democratic side grover norquist had said never cut any spending? i'm going to sign a
to tax our imports in our country. the whole thing with steve jobs, he created the apple computer in his garage in california. if steve jobs was born in china, he would not even have a garage. we do not do enough for the people of this country or the people in a position to create jobs. data reinvest and i do not think that they should get tax breaks. creating jobs here, not overseas. host: joshua gordon? guest: i think a part of your frustration, many talk about fixing it in a mutual way. which had nothing to the deficit discussion and does not help to make lowering the deficits any easier. there are some things we need to change. in general we need to realize that if we set the country on the right path and make the right investments in technology and education, making sure we do not cut the necessary programs to do the growth, you have to make that a priority. we will be able to grow with the global economy. manufacturing has already come back to some degree. i know that apple is moving a couple of production facilities back to the united states from china. the real key is making sure
less than they otherwise should be or would be. >> and we talked to "the wall street journal's" steve moore a little while ago and i asked him about the psychological effect if we go off the fiscal cliff. i want you to hear what he said. >> i talk to small businessmen and women all the time. they say, we're not hiring now. we're canceling a lot of our plans to make new expenditures, which you need to do if you want a vibrant economy. and we're really seeing the impact in the stock market the last couple of weeks. so this is not a good way to run a railroad. and the economy is already taking a hit because of all this turmoil in washington. >> you agree with that, that we've already seen the impact of not having a deal to avoid this cliff? >> i don't think we've seen all of the impact. undoubtedly, stephen moore is correct that the stock market is reacting, particularly over the last couple of days. but most people, most institutions, most companies, most consumers assume that there will be some sort of a deal or if there's not a deal, at least by monday, then there will be a deal withi
quiet at the moment, steve. it's one of those things where you feel like something big is going to happen but as you walk through the corridors here, it seems pretty quiet at the moment. >> well, we have all sorts of conflicting reports out there about what the broad framework would be if there's going to be a deal. i guess the big stumble bling block is number one, what is the fresh hold be for the tax income? $250,000 which obama originally proposed? $400,000 which he supposedly offered in a revised offer a week ago? and then, of course, the status of the sequester. we have $1.2 trillion in cuts over ten years, half from defense and half from nondefense discretionary spending. is there any indication if there's a deal today what they're talking about in terms of those two issues? >> we're reading tea leaves but we can say that on saturday there were the most senior-level staffers who were doing the nitty-gritty negotiations. we're told paper was exchanged back and forth meaning proposals being outlined and going back and forth with details. we're told the sticking points we'll
, apple. the first year without steve jobs and a company that's trying to prove under a new ceo that it can still invent things that we didn't even know we needed that we would buy, faster than anything's ever been sold in personal technology before. number nine, the u.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. the smart money's been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo. hundreds of millions of people like facebook, but investors did not on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users pummeled the stock, which has yet to climb its way back to its ipo price. >> number seven, mother meyer. the new ceo of yahoo! who announced that she was just going to take a two-week maternity leave, as she was going to try to turn this company around. 37 years old, it looks like a mother's touch is exactly what
. as the deadline for the fiscal cliff does loom, what does it peen if your money if we do not get a deal? steve liesman has more on that. >> we talk about a lot of these big numbers that are out there and we don't talk about what it means to individuals. so let me see if i can break down the big numbers into something that might mean something to individual people here. $620 billion, that's the number that's the total revenue increases and spending cuts. about $130 billion of the automatic cuts that john harwood was just talking about, talking about trying to ally for a little while. 1920. that's if you break it down by every man, woman and child in america. that's the per capita fiscal cliff effect. but that effects a lot of people differently here. $26.2 million. that's the number of americans that will be caught by the amt, the alter naf tax system, unless congress comes up with a patch and that's part of the whole fiscal cliff effect. come on over here, we'll show you more. 2.1 million, that's the number of long term unemployed americans who will lose the extended benefits again if there's
a moment. we also have pimco's mow hammel el-erian. >>> steve sedgwick is standing by in london right now. how are things standing by there? >> it's a very quiet session as we saw last week on the u.s. and the european incidentsies. despite the fact that the vix in the united states and the v-stocks and the various volatility measures on this side of the atlantic remain elevated. despite that, we're not seeing a lot of oscillation on the back of, as you said, the fiscal cliff and concerns that we may fall off. does that mean that people are getting complacent? they think even though we might not get a deal in the next 24 hours, we will get a deal fairly imminently. in the meantime, though, this is what we've got in terms of the major european indices. that will open and the germans will come to that in a few minutes' time it has been up year-to-date around about 6% and that makes the ftse 100 a real lagger compared with some of its european peers. a laggard, as well, compared to the cac 40. we have no fiscal cliff deal as of yet and it is up 1%. that means the cac 40, the french equity ma
, however, he was inducted into the academy of television arts hall of fame in 1992 and in 2005 he steve the presidential medal of freedom and won a grammy in 1997 for his album of gospel music but his legacy for many will be the andy griffith theme song. >> of course. >> i didn't realize it went out at the top of the ratings like i love lucy and seinfedl. >> and henry hill. >> a a know torous new york city mob teresa payton and fbi informant jess died from heart failure and lived a complicated life from drug cartels to the air france robbery which then formed the base for the martin score saycy film. popular characteristic. >>> and robin giv gibb of the bee gees. stayin' alive and how deep it your love. >> best known for being one of the members of the bee gees with a career spanning six decades. they he sold more than 220 million records worldwide. divide as one of the major figures in the history of british music. he will be remembered for putting the disco on the map in the late '70s and creating the saturday night fever soundtrack starring john travolta can. and he received multiple
from the hospital. people were so outraged that one congressman, steve king from iowa, actually went on the floor of the house and denounced this move. well, as a result of all the coverage, the order was rescinded, but again, it's just-- >> who gave the order? >> this came from his superiors in the army. so, the challenge here is there have been so many attacks on religion, especially the christian religion in the military, just a couple of weeks ago we did a story about a base in afghanistan where they were ordered to take down a nativity scene because it might offend people. >> dave: and the attacks even having on the football field and the attacks-- >> you have to wonder what's going on here. a group of high school cheerleaders in texas of all places, well within the bible belt, put up a banner that had a christian slogan, a christian bible verse. an organization out of which is wisconsin they got wind of it and they threatened to sue unless they took down the bible verses, you state of text it is got involved. and you don't want to mess with god or guns in texas, but they keep t
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